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Denise Fenzi
18 Sep

Two and a half dogs - Juno

Posted by dfenzi in Juno, Most Viewed Posts

I'd like to introduce the current canine members of my household - not only are they a huge part of my life, but  each has contributed greatly to my current ideas about training for competition.

My plan was to start with Cisu; after all, she is the oldest.

Then I thought about how many dogs  live here; 2.5 to be exact.  I"m concerned that some reader or two will get hung up on the idea of a half dog, so I'd better start with the half-dog, Juno, and get that explained right away.

Juno is a day care resident; she lives in my home four days a week while her owner works, and often for extended periods when her mom travels.  Many people believe Juno is mine since she is featured in my you tube videos and she is the daughter of my dog, Raika.

As a regular resident, Juno was trained in competition obedience skills, but I did not work to develop a deeper relationship with her - to make her feel special and amazing.  I wasn't comfortable making her "mine" - because she wasn't.  I kept a wall between us.  It felt unfair to her owner if I bonded with Juno as one of my own - after all, what if she decided she preferred me to mom?   Honestly, I thought it was the right thing to do, and it didn't' occur to me that our "business" relationship might cause problems in competition work.

I was oblivious to the negative effects of this approach for almost two years.  I knew that Juno was more challenging to train than my other dogs.  It took almost six months to develop her obsession with a ball, and I neglected her tugging altogether - I figured that as a working bred dog she'd be a great tugger if I needed that skill later on.  I also knew that her endurance for work was very poor and her reliance on frequent toy rewards was inordinately high.  As long as the ball was available, Juno was able to work reasonably hard and stayed well focused.

The problem didn't become visible until she was asked to work without the promise of a toy. In the ring there are no toys, and I felt that she needed to develop the skills to cope with this reality. I hate fooling dogs into believing I can provide more in the ring than I can deliver.

To remedy her ball focus, I removed the ball from training and attempted to use ring objects (dumbbells, gloves and articles) as the rewards for hard work.   The process was extremely challenging for me, and a misery for her.  She wanted her ball.  A chance to interact with me and whatever alternatives I was offering; play, ring objects, or mental stimulation merited almost no value in her eyes.  Juno began disengaging and leaving in the middle of training sessions - exactly what I believed could happen in the ring if this issue were not addressed.  Her attitude deteriorated to the point where I brought back the ball.  To get a sense of how the process looked, see this short video from May of 2011:

As the weeks went by and my ability to directly engage Juno continued to fail, I began to study her more carefully in the house.  I noticed that when she showed up in the morning, she ran straight past me to check in with my dogs - I was not so important.  I saw that she would play with my kids and my husband, but  with me, she was a little bit...distant. She never tried to push to the front of the dogs when they were greeting me nor did she hang out by my chair at the computer as the other dogs did.  It occurred to me that maybe I had been approaching it backwards; trying to build relationship through training rather than building training through relationship.

I set about making her "my" dog.  When she arrived in the morning, I separated her from the other dogs for several hours a day.  I invited her to a place of attention at my side when I worked on the computer.  I ignored minor transgressions of the house rules if she was breaking them to be closer to me. I watched her style of play carefully and started spending a few minutes each day running around the back yard and trying to engage her when she was at her most energetic - truly an exhausting activity.  In training, I worked very  hard to add value to myself by thoroughly integrating toy rewards with celebration, play and ring objects.   Even when I let her have the ball, I worked to continue playing with her while she held it.

I became very familiar with Juno's "baleful stare" - my description for Juno's non- response to many of my attempts at engagement. Honestly, it wasnt' much fun, but I felt I had no choice if she were to succeed.

Slowly, I noticed change.  Juno started to assert herself in the house; demanding her share of special attention. She greeted me first at the door, and then checked in with the dogs.  She started working even when she knew there was no ball.  When she did win the ball, she'd still engage with me; jumping at my hands and staying close to me for company - a huge change from taking it away and chewing it, or only returning so I could throw it again.  As I saw her giving a little to me, I found it easier to give back.  I celebrated each change in her behavior, both in the house and during training.  And suddenly it snowballed; almost overnight.  She was working hard, staying focused and driving interactions with or without a ball present.

Juno is a work in process, but right now I'm so excited by what I see that I train her several times a day, never for more than a few minutes.  We are finally able to play together in work - just small bits at a time, but we're on the journey.  I could not honestly say if our changed relationship caused the change in work, or if she simply learned to tolerate a dramatically lower reward schedule - my instinct tells me it's both.  How well she holds up in the ring remains to be seen, and I suspect will largely be a function of how well her owner is able to develop their special relationship.

Competing with a dog that cannot comfortably work for the amount of time they will be in the ring (about five minutes initially) is asking for trouble.  Juno must demonstrate her tolerance before she should compete.

The longer you wait to create your "value package",  the more you risk being seen as the dispenser of valued objects  rather than being a fundamental part of the whole.  Juno taught me that with some dogs, relationship is neither optional nor automatic. It must be developed both in and out of formal work.

What I'm learning from Juno will be a factor in how I raise the new puppy.  From the beginning, I plan to work hard to develop every possible motivator for work.  I want to be the "package deal", not a dispenser.  I want to offer food, toys, play, praise, and emotional support, all wrapped up in one fabulous human.  I know that many dogs do not require this special effort; they will work in the ring regardless of external rewards or relationship.  I'm not going to take the chance.

Here's a four minute video of Juno working this morning - mistakes are not edited out. I used one ball reward, a couple of ring object (dumbbell) rewards, and several "personal play" rewards.  She will work again for a few minutes this afternoon - we'll focus on tightening up her heeling.  Since that will be a learning session, I'll be more generous with the toy.  And she'll have one last session today with no toy rewards at all.  Three sessions for about fifteen minutes of work in total.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dy5qkalCjM


12 Comments

OMG! Welcome to dog blogging! I have to say, Loki and I really miss working with you. I don’t work him at all in Switzerland, except around farms for basic good manners around horses, cows and goats! yes believe it or not, that cracker dog who would growl at your goats can now pass within just a few feet, herds of cows, horses and goats without much trouble! Sometimes the cows who are “too interested in us” scare him though.

I love this post about Juno. I find that is so true with both Loki and my Juno the sibe. It’s weird to have one of the few sibes among my many sibe owning friends that has this kind of “working relationship” with me. I do all sorts of hide and seek games in the house with both of them. And like you said, tho she doesn’t learn as quickly or as “tightly” as Loki learns, she has way more fun at trying. he’s obsessed with being right while she’s just having a ball at making me giggle. honestly, they both can care less about the food, even tho it’s a part of it. it’s the game and playing with me that they crave. and i totally love that. now if i can only be creative like you are. we still play “mole in the hole” but i call it “Boop!” because i say that every time a fling a treat on the floor.

Anyway, we totally miss you. maybe your blog will help me think of things to do with them in our own back yard!
Julie Starling & Loki

Posted by wilddingogo on January 09, 2012

Boy did this post resonate for me! I recently discovered this same issue myself with my “husband’s” rather low drive Malinois. He simply did not have any sustained interest in being with me unless there was an immediate treat to be had. This has caused us problems in the ring (he’ll just leave if he needs to pee or gets stressed out by barking or too much activity outside the ring) and I will never train a competition dog again without building relationship as well. My rescue is the complete opposite and working with her is pure joy in spite of some lingering confidence and reactivity issues stemming from an unhappy past.
Many years ago I took a seminar with some police dog trainers and they seemed to truly emphasize the “bond” between handler and K9. If a K9 loses his handler, he was sent away to be boarded until the new handler could come and “rescue” him. At the time I thought this was rather silly but I see the value now when it comes time to ask for a working committment from my dog instead of simple companionship.

Posted by Karin on September 19, 2011

Great post! Great thoughts and well delivered. I’m very much on the same journey with Phoenix – thought I could develop the relationship through training. He needed more than that. Good dog. Stupid handler. He forgives me.

Posted by Melinda Wichmann on September 20, 2011

I should have said VIDEOS:o)

Posted by Amy Walker on September 19, 2011

Really enjoying your blog, and really glad I stumbled upon your name one day while killing time on the ’net.

These are some great lessons that I’m going to take to heart. Thanks so much for posting!

Posted by Jess on September 19, 2011

Juno and Jade are very identical, though, Jade has always demanded the attention be on her from a very young age. The training tolerance and excitement for training is very similar; that was a big concern for me going to trials. I think the trial atmosphere and her maturity has brought her to a point that we can progress forward. Patience, not over drilling her, and letting her grow up seems very important in training and living with Jade. I have now become important in Jade’s world. Enjoyed the blog. :)

Posted by Mary on September 19, 2011

It looks like you have established a working relationship with Juno. I needed this type of information, when I got my present Malinois.
The only problem I had,with the video, is that it kept stopping and reloading, a problem I have not had with my fast Internet. Not had with any other of your videos.
Your videos are so encouraging and fun, motivating one to train and train; and have a great time doing it.

Posted by Helen Gruenhut on September 18, 2011

This is an awesome post. The video is one that I will re-watch. Instead of looking for a “new dog” I need to work on the ones I already have. Maybe they can learn to be more animated in the ring if I will just try to develop a better relationship. Thanks for giving me hope.

Posted by Robin Clark on September 19, 2011

Loved this post Denise! Def. something I’ve had to work on with my GSD Mac. You’ve met him @ your Vancouver seminars. That ball means so much more to him than I do…it’s been a struggle but something we are constantly working on. He means the world too me:o) The video will be a helpful tool to go back to when we get “stuck”.

Posted by Amy Walker on September 19, 2011

Thanks Denise, always something to learn from your posts and videos. Thanks for your thoughtful generosity.

Posted by Susan Kennedy on September 18, 2011

What a great lesson you learned from Juno. I have tried to apply the attitude you wrote about here and on the obed list as I raise Dragon. At first whenever he got a ball he would run away and bat it around with his paws, like a cat. After much work, he now brings the ball back to me and we play tug with it (it’s on a string), so it’s now a reinforcer that includes me as part of the process. :)

Posted by Joanna on September 18, 2011

Though I enjoyed reading this article, what I really wanted to say is: Gee, we’re going to get into trouble. We have the same theme on our blogs, and my next puppy is going to be ‘Juno’… Oops!

Posted by Tegan on September 18, 2011

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