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Denise Fenzi
27 Oct

Lyra - 12 weeks of age

Posted by dfenzi in Lyra

I'm switching from "time she's been here" to "age" for the titles of my blog posts about Lyra.  Makes more sense over the long run.

Lyra's doing great!  Either her food drive is increasing or I'm doing a better job at finding tasty morsels.  Probably both.

Today's video shows a few things; a bit of pivoting (using a frisbee to hold her front feet in place and then on the ground), heeling (for a toy and food), and dumbbell retrieve (for toy and food).  I'm incredibly pleased that she will put down the toy to pick up the dumbbell.

As you can see, she loves her platform.  Normally I would not have random stuff on the floor unless I was using it - this is why.  I should have had a table set up outside with my props.  I could have taken them down as I wanted to use them.

Lyra still wanders off with her toys, but less every day.  Her retrieve is coming back, but not with tug toys at this time.  She'll work through that in the next few weeks.

After she gets the pivot in heel (using the frisbee) I'll teach her a left turn in heeling.    I'm increasing distance and expectation for the dumbbell.  We continue to play A LOT, though I do not show that here.

I'm giving some thought to how to teach sit, down and stand, but haven't done much with it yet.  So far, there hasn't been any luring, and I hate to start now.  The only way I know to teach a fold back down is with a food lure.  I'm open to alternatives, as long as they don't involve props.  Easier to fade a food target then a prop.

Here's a five minute clip of today's session.  Total session was more like 10 minutes, and included a few other bits and pieces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-zfDM4c-iI


7 Comments

In 2004 my Malinois puppy taught me about the power of eye connection. It was an accident. I looked at her (because I loved looking at her!) then looked at the floor – probably daydreaming. She went down. It took me a while to notice the sequence. When I caught on I deliberately tried it. She went down every time. I can direct her to different places the same way. Just in case it was a fluke, this year I tried teaching my young Mal boy to down this way. He was slower. He watched her; he watched me; he caught on. This is fascinating to me. No modeling. No luring. No force. I tried to talk to a few people about it, but they said “everyone knows that”. After 40 years of dog training I didn’t. Guess I’m a slow learner!

Posted by Carolyn H. on October 29, 2011

It’s not too hard to shape a foldback by clicking head drops and getting a little bow first. I did it with one dog just to experiment. For stand I’ve recently been experimenting with a few dogs on using their perch work to teach it since stand is the default behavior there. I just teach them to sit and down on it also once they were good at those behaviors and they quickly offer the stand. All I had to do was name it and then shrink the perch.

It is really fun to play with all the different ways you can teach something :)

Posted by Laura, Lance, and Vito on October 27, 2011

It’s not that it’s “wrong” to lure stuff, but I’d like to learn some new ways of doing things. I may just have her target my hand and go down from there. But…one never knows when someone thought up something unique; worth asking!

Posted by dfenzi on October 27, 2011

Susan Garret just posted a great video on her facebook page about teaching a stand with a hand target!

Posted by T on October 27, 2011

I captured downs with both of my current dogs, and both have lovely fold-back downs. I recall doing just a tiny bit of shaping with Dobby in the beginning, clicking weight shifts backwards, but this was only one 2-minute session. All 3 position behaviors were actually trained through capturing with him (he was too fearful to follow a lite if you can believe it!), and he has the cleanest and crispest transitions.

Posted by Sara Reusche on October 27, 2011

I am really enjoying your posts on Lyra, and you’ve almost inspired me to start a similar process with my puppy, Myrtle (current 4 days old).

My border terrier, Clover, often does a fold back drop naturally when fixated on a toy. I think it may be related to doing a play bow, but then they decide to drop. I am sure if Lyra did this you would’ve noticed by now – so this suggestion perhaps isn’t much use!

Posted by Tegan on October 27, 2011

I shaped my “drop” with a target stick between the legs. Got the lowering of the head first, then the front legs then the butt then sped it up so it all kind of collapsed at once. But that is a prop, so if you dont want to use that, I guess you could just free shape head movement first . I dont think theres any shame in luring certain things though.

Posted by Alanna on October 27, 2011

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